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Title: Federal Bureau of Investigation FOIA Documents - Unidentified Flying Objects
Author: United States. Federal Bureau of Investigation
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UFO
SECTION 1
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
AUG 11 1947
TELETYPE
FBI PORTLAND 8-11-47 1-17 PM PST KAM
DIRECTOR U R G E N T
FLYING DISCS. SECURITY MATTER DASH X. ONE ____ FORMER NAVY PILOT AND
PRESENTLY ____ MYRTLE CREEK, ____ OREGON, REPORTS SEEING A MYSTERIOUS
OBJECT ON TWO OCCASIONS THE EVENING OF AUGUST SIXTH WHILE FLYING AT
ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND FEET ABOVE MYRTLE CREEK. HATFIELD TO BE
INTERVIEWED.
BOBBITT
END
5-18 PM OK FBI WASH DC GAR
[Stamped: RECORDED & INDEXED
30 OCT 1947
EX-60]
* * * * * * * *
STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: August 12, 1947
FROM : SAC, MILWAUKEE
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
SABOTAGE
Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, dated July
30, 1947, Section (B), which advises that all reports concerning flying
discs should be investigated by field offices.
Prior to the receipt of these instructions, two instances were called
to the attention of this office concerning flying discs. One report was
received July 7, 1947, the details of which are set forth in Milwaukee
letter to the Bureau dated July 8, 1947, entitled, "Flying Discs or
Saucers, Miscellaneous, Telephone Call from Mr. Fletcher at the Bureau
at 8:30 a.m., 7-7-47." No investigation was conducted concerning this
report.
The second report was received by this office at 1:20 p.m. July 11,
1947, from ____ who is in charge of the Civil Air Patrol of Wisconsin,
an auxiliary of the Army Air Forces. On that occasion ____ calling from
Black River Falls, Wisconsin, telephonically advised this office that
an object in the shape of a disc, nineteen inches in diameter had been
found July 10, 1947, by one ____ city electrician on the Jackson County
fairgrounds, near Black River Falls, Wisconsin, about 3:30 p.m. The
disc might be made of a substance such as cardboard covered by a silver
airplane dope material. The contraption has a small wooden tail like a
rudder in the back and inside of the disc is what appears to be an RCA
photo-electric cell or tube. Also inside the disc is a little electric
motor with a shaft running to the center of the disc. At one end of the
shaft is a very small propeller. In ____ opinion that contraption might
possibly have been made by some juvenile. ____ stated that he desired
to return the contraption to Milwaukee and eventually turn it over to
the Army Air Forces, but that the finder, ____ apparently wanted to get
some publicity on his find and wanted it returned to him.
This information was telephonically called to the attention of
Assistant Director D. M. LADD of the Bureau on July 11, 1947.
Subsequently, SAC H. K. JOHNSON telephoned Colonel ____ in charge of
Counter Intelligence, Fifth Army, Chicago AC of S G-2 Headquarters
Fifth Army, East Hyde Park Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, who stated he
would contact ____ of Black River Falls, Wisconsin.
No further investigation was conducted in this matter.
The above constitutes the only two instances in which this office was
contacted concerning flying discs. Unless contrary instructions are
received from the Bureau, this office does not contemplate taking any
further action in connection with the above two cases, but will fully
investigate all future reports concerning flying discs.
JGF/ddc
98-0
[Stamped: COPIES DESTROYED
270 NOV 18 1964]
* * * * * * * *
August 5, 1947
____
____
Omaha, Nebraska
Dear ____
I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter postmarked July 10, 1947,
together with its enclosure.
Inasmuch as the information which you furnished is of interest to the
War Department I have taken the liberty of furnishing it to that agency
for their consideration.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
WVC:mjp:rb
62-83894
[Stamped: RECORDED & INDEXED
EX-8]
* * * * * * * *
STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : D. M. Ladd DATE: August 1, 1947
FROM : J. P. Coyno
SUBJECT: MRS. ____
INFORMANT
There is attached hereto a letter received from the captioned
individual postmarked July 12, 1947, concerning "flying saucers."
There is also attached a letter of acknowledgement to ____ ____
together with a letter to the War Department for approval.
It is recommended that the letter to the War Department be forwarded to
the Liaison Section for transmittal to that agency.
Attachments
WVC:mjp
[Handwritten: handled separately]
[Stamped: RECORDED & INDEXED]
* * * * * * * *
F.B.I. TELETYPE
D E C O D E D C O P Y
WASH FROM SFRAN S2 8-9-47 2-50 PM KC
DIRECTOR FBI AND SACS, SEATTLE AND PORTLAND URGENT
FLYING DISKS, SECURITY MATTER-X. LT. COL. ____ OF G2, SAN FRANCISCO,
ADVISED TODAY HE HAS NO FURTHER INFORMATION AND THAT OUR SEATTLE OFFICE
IS IN POSSESSION OF ALL INFORMATION KNOWN BY HIM AND IS HANDLING THE
MATTER AT TACOMA, WASHINGTON.
KIMBALL
RECEIVED 8-9-47 8:15 PM EDST
SACS SEATTLE AND PORTLAND ADVISED
If the intelligence contained in the above message is to be
disseminated outside the Bureau, it is suggested that it be suitably
paraphrased in order to protect the Bureau's coding systems.
[Stamped: G.I.R.-9
RECORDED
EX-45]
* * * * * * * *
STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : Director, FBI DATE: August 8, 1947
FROM : SAC, Norfolk
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Re Bureau Bulletin No. 42, dated July 30, 1947, Series 1947, wherein
information is set forth pertaining to flying discs.
There is enclosed with this letter a newspaper clipping from the
"Norfolk Ledger-Dispatch", dated July 9, 1947. The photograph appearing
on this clipping is alleged to represent a flying disc which was
observed by BILLY TURRENTINE, a Norfolk school boy, who was successful
in photographing the object with his small camera.
BILLY was interviewed on August 8, 1947 by Special Agent (A) ____ at
which time BILLY informed that the original negative was given by him
to a Mr. BROWN of the Photo Craftsman Service, who in turn furnished
the negative to the International News Service. BILLY advised that he
has an agreement with Mr. BROWN whereby the latter will share equally
in any profits derived from the use of the negative by commercial firms
or newspapers. As of August 8, 1947 BILLY has not received any
remuneration for the use of this negative.
He informed that he was sitting on the front porch of his apartment
which is located on the third floor at 410 West 14th Street, Norfolk,
Virginia, around noontime on July 8, 1947. He had read numerous
newspaper articles pertaining to flying discs and decided to sit on his
front porch in the hopes of seeing one and attempting to photograph it.
On July 8, 1947 BILLY observed a large, black object moving rapidly
through space proceeding from the southwest to a northeast direction.
He said the black object was followed by two smaller objects which also
proceeded in the same direction. BILLY explained that the objects were
moving at a very fast speed which appeared to him to be much faster
than the speed of an airplane, and further, that the objects appeared
to be extremely high. He said that they were much higher than the
average plane travels in the City of Norfolk and appeared to be above
the clouds, and that a white mist followed each of the three objects.
BILLY was unable to state what the black objects represented, but
admitted that they could have been large balloons. He indicated that he
has observed small, toy balloons flying through the air, but that
definitely these were not the toy type balloons. He said that when he
first observed the objects they were at such a great distance from him
that it was not necessary that he raise his head in order to see them
from his porch on the third floor of the apartment building. He
immediately turned around to obtain his camera and estimated it took
him approximately twenty to thirty seconds, at which time the discs
were almost directly over his apartment and it was necessary that he
stoop and look up almost perpendicular in order to obtain the
photograph, which accounts for the porch railing being shown in the
newspaper clipping. BILLY pointed out that the day on which he took the
picture, the weather was hazy and somewhat cloudy and there was a
slight breeze blowing from the southwest in the general direction of
the northeast, which is the same direction traveled by the black image
which he photographed.
Inasmuch as the Army authorities in the Tidewater Area of Virginia are
cognizant of the above information, no further investigation will be
conducted by this office in this matter.
Enclosure.
TJC:lab
62-182
[Stamped: RECORDED & INDEXED
COPIES DESTROYED
270 NOV 18 1964]
* * * * * * * *
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
AUG 4 1947
TELETYPE
WASHINGTON FROM NEWARK 8-4-47 5-36 PM EDST JFG
DIRECTOR U R G E N T
FLYING DISC REPORTED AT HACKENSACK, NJ AUGUST THREE, NINETEEN
FORTY-SEVEN, MISC. INFORMATION RECEIVED THAT ____ AGE ____ ____ AGE
TWENTY, ____ HACKENSACK AND ____ ____ FT. DIX, NJ ON LATE AFTERNOON
AUGUST THIRD LAST SIGHTED FROM GROUND OBJECT DESCRIBED AS FLYING DISC.
____ CLAIMED IT WAS TWO HUNDRED ____ YDS, IN AIR, REVOLVING SLOWLY,
MOVING RAPIDLY, AND NEITHER A KITE NOR A BALLOON. ____ TELEPHONED
INFORMATION TO HACKENSACK PD. INQUIRY BEING MADE, BUREAU WILL BE KEPT
ADVISED.
MC KEE
RECORDED 62-83844-49
END ACK PLS
NK R 1
[Handwritten: Info. brought to the attention of ____ 8/6/47]
[Stamped: RECORDED
EX-46]
* * * * * * * *
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
AUG 6 1947
TELETYPE
FBI PORTLAND 8-5-47 8-50 PM HHS
DIRECTOR AND SACS SEATTLE AND SAN FRANCISCO U R G E N T
FLYING DISCS, SM DASH X. RE TELEPHONE CALL FROM MR. LADD, ONE PM TODAY
REQUESTING TELETYPE SUMMARY CONCERNING NEWSPAPER REPORTS OF RECENT
REPORTED FLYING DISCS IN PORTLAND AREA AND A REPORTED CONFERENCE OF
ARMY OFFICIALS IN PORTLAND CONCERNING FLYING DISCS.____ ____ THE
OREGONIAN, ADVISED THAT A CAPTAIN WILLIAM L. DAVIDSON AND LT. FRANK M.
BROWN OF FOURTH AAF HEADQUARTERS SAN FRANCISCO WERE IN PORTLAND JULY
TWENTY SEVEN LAST AND INTERVIEWED ____ AN EXPERIENCED PILOT, WHO HAD
REPORTED JUNE FOURTEEN LAST SEEING A FORMATION OF TEN FLYING DISCS OVER
BAKERSFIELD, CALIF. ACCORDING TO ____ THEY HAD ALSO INTERVIEWED
FOLLOWING FOUR EXPERIENCED PILOTS WHO WERE AMONG FIRST WHO REPORTED
SEEING DISCS--____ TO ASCERTAIN THE PURPOSE OF THE INTERVIEWS ____
CONTACTED MAJOR GENERAL TWINING OF WRIGHT FIELD, OHIO BY PHONE AT
ALBUQUERQUE, NM, AND FROM HIM GAINED THE IMPRESSION THAT THE AAF
INSTITUTED THIS INVESTIGATION TO WASH OUT THE DISC REPORTS, SINCE THEY
ARE DEFINITELY NOT OF AAF ORIGIN. ON FRIDAY, AUGUST FIRST, THE PLANE IN
WHICH AAF INVESTIGATORS CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN WERE RIDING,
CRASHED AT KELSO, WASH. AND BOTH WERE KILLED. THE WRECKAGE WAS SCREENED
BY AAF INTELLIGENCE FROM MCCHORD FIELD. THE TACOMA NEWS TRIBUNE AND
THROUGH THEM THE UNITED PRESS PUT OUT A STORY THE PLANE WAS CARRYING
PARTS OF A DISC WHICH HAD STRUCK A BOAT OWNED BY HAROLD DAHL AND FRED
CRISMAN, TACOMA, WN. ____ ADVISED THAT TODAY'S ISSUE OF THE OREGONIAN
CARRIES A UP STORY STATING THAT DAHL DENIES SAYING THE METAL FRAGMENTS
HE FURNISHED WERE FROM A DISC, AND ANALYSIS OF THE FRAGMENTS SHOWS THEM
TO BE FROM A TACOMA SLAG MILL. NO AAF INTELLIGENCE PERSONNEL AVAILABLE
PORTLAND. NO RECENT SUBSTANTIVE REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS IN THE PORTLAND
AREA. SEATTLE VERIFY AT MCCHORD FIELD AND SAN FRANCISCO VERIFY AT AAF
HDQRTS. SF, SUBMITTING TELETYPE SUMMARIES TO THE BUREAU. NO FURTHER
INVESTIGATION PORTLAND.
BOBBITT
END AND ACK
WA 0157AM OK FBI WA DW
SE
S OK FBI SE KLS
SF OK FBI SF NCW
DVIMSC
[Handwritten: b7C
8/6/47
cc Mr. Ladd.]
[Stamped: 67C
RECORDED & INDEXED
EX-30]
* * * * * * * *
STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : D. M. LADD DATE: August 6, 1947
FROM : ____
SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS
Special Agent ____ of the Liaison Section contacted Lieutenant Colonel
____, Army Air Forces Intelligence, inquiring about an article which
appeared in the West Coast newspapers recently stating in substance
that an airplane carrying recovered flying saucers crashed in route
from Portland, Oregon, to Los Angeles, California.
____ advised ____ that the only information that has been received by
Headquarters of the Army Air Forces is that a CIC Agent of the 4th Air
Forces Headquarters, Hamilton Field, San Francisco, was killed in an
airplane crash. The Headquarters of the Air Forces have been advised
that he was on a top secret mission. ____ indicated that he was under
the impression that the CIC Agent was either on route to or from an
interview with ____ who is one of the individuals who first saw one of
the flying saucers.
____ stated that the Air Forces have no additional information and will
receive none until the report is received from the 4th Air Forces. ____
suggested that the San Francisco Field Office contact Colonel ____
Headquarters 4th Air Forces, Hamilton Field, San Francisco, who
undoubtedly would be able to furnish the details regarding this matter
which are at this time unknown by the Headquarters of the Air Forces.
____ pointed out to ____, however, that it was his belief that no
flying saucers have been recovered but that it was merely an attempt to
reinterview an individual who previously had reported seeing one of the
flying saucers.
SWR:rnr
[Stamped: RECORDED
EX-25]
* * * * * * * *
Date: August 5, 1947
CONFIDENTIAL
To: Director of Intelligence BY SPECIAL MESSENGER
War Department General Staff
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D.C.
Attention: Colonel ____
From: John Edgar Hoover--Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Subject: ____
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received from the
above-captioned individual concerning "flying discs."
____ letter has been acknowledged and he has been advised that copies
of his letter have been furnished to you for your consideration.
Attachment
WVC:mjp:rb
[Handwritten: declassified
2040
8/31/87
HM]
[Stamped: RECORDED
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
MAILED 10 P.M.
AUG 7 1947
FEDERAK BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE]
* * * * * * * *
Invoice of Contents from L-26
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
WASHINGTON, D.C.
Date 9-10-47 Case References Flying Saucer
Consigned to ____
Estill, South Carolina
List of Contents
Powered Soap Stone.
SPECIAL INSTRUCTION [illegible] Room, place date of shipment and
registry number; Shipping Room, above date of this invoice; then return
it to person whose name is checked in column at right. After this
checked name has been initialled, invoice should be placed in
administrative file.
[Stamped: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
MAILED 7 P.M.
SEP 13 1947
FEDERAK BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
REGISTERED]
* * * * * * * *
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
To: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION. AUGUST 7, 1947
Transmit the following message to: SAC, DETROIT "URGENT"
UNSUBS, ____ INFORMANTS, FLYING DISC, MISC. REURTEL AUGUST 5 MATERIAL
SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED TO FBI LABORATORY FOR EXAMINATION BUT SHOULD BE
TURNED OVER TO THE ARMY AIRFORCE INTELLIGENCE.
HOOVER
RGF:mae
[Stamped: RECORDED & INDEXED
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
COMMUNICATION SECTION
AUG 7 1947
TELETYPE
COPIES DESTROYED
270 NOV 18 1964]
* * * * * * * *
Date : August 1, 1947 PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL
To : Director of Intelligence
War Department General Staff
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D.C.
Attention: ____
From : John Edgar Hoover, Director--Federal Bureau of Investigation
Subject: ____
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received from the
above-captioned individual concerning "flying saucers."
____ letter has been acknowledged and she has been advised that copies
of her letter have been furnished to you for your consideration.
Attachment
WVC:mjp
[Handwritten: declassified
2040
8/31/77
HM]
[Stamped: RECEIVED & INDEXED]
* * * * * * * *
STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: July 22, 1947
FROM : SAC, EL PASO
SUBJECT: ____
FLYING OBJECTS IN AIR
____ has come to the resident agency at Santa Fe, New Mexico on several
occasions to report that she has received information concerning flying
objects passing through the air. Some of the reports that she has
received concern light objects seen at night which have allegedly been
followed by explosions. She advised that one of such objects was
reported by ____ ____ who works near Canjilon, New Mexico. She claims
that others were seen near Park View and Tierra Amarilla, New Mexico.
____ called attention to clippings from various newspapers concerning
"disc-like" objects seen in New Mexico and other parts of the country.
____ claims to be a student of radio waves and ray forms, and contends
that the above mentioned objects may be missiles similar to those
appearing over Sweden some time ago.
____ has discussed the above with officials of the Atomic Energy
Commission, and has written the Secretary of War and other government
officials concerning her theories. ____ for the A.E.C., has advised
that officials at Los Alamos consider ____ ____ unreliable and possibly
not well balanced mentally. She has mentioned to agents of this office
that she was struck by lightning when a child.
On July 15, ____ came to the Santa Fe resident agency and advised that
she had written to WALTER WINCHELL, promising him a story in connection
with the "flying discs."
The foregoing information is being submitted to the Bureau, inasmuch as
____ has written to several government officials and Mr. WINCHELL.
62-0-3594c
FTM:GH
[Stamped: RECORDED & INDEXED]
* * * * * * * *
STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : D. M. LADD DATE: 7/24/47
FROM : E. G. Fitch
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Reference is made to my memorandum to you in the above captioned matter
dated July 10, 1947, indicating that Brigadier General George F.
Schulgen of the Army Air Corps Intelligence had requested that the
Bureau cooperate with the Army Air Corps intelligence in connection
with the above captioned matter. The Director noted on the referenced
memorandum, "I would do it but before agreeing to it we must insist
upon full access to discs recovered. For instance in the La. case the
Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination."
This is to advise that Special Agent ____ has recontacted General
Schulgen and advised him in connection with the Director's notation.
General Schulgen indicated to ____ that he desired to assure Mr. Hoover
of complete cooperation in this matter and stated that he would issue
instructions to the field directing that all cooperation be furnished
to the FBI and that all discs recovered be made available for the
examination by the FBI Agents. General Schulgen pointed out to ____
that he will from time to time make the results of the studies of his
scientists available to the Bureau for the assistance of the FBI Field
Offices. General Schulgen indicated to ____ that there has been a
decrease in the reported sightings of the discs which might be because
of the fact that it has lost much of its publicity value. He indicated,
however, that he believed it necessary to follow this matter through to
determine as near as possible if discs were in fact seen and to
determine their origin.
General Schulgen inquired of ____ the method by which the Bureau would
make the information obtained from the Bureau's inquiries, known to the
Air Corps, in the Field as well as at the War Department level. Mr.
____ pointed out to General Schulgen that the best procedure appeared
to be through the regular established channels. It was pointed out to
General Schulgen that the Bureau Field Offices maintain close liaison
with the Intelligence Divisions of the various Armies as well as close
liaison with the Intelligence Division of the War Department. General
Schulgen indicated that he would be satisfied to receive information
through this means.
General Schulgen indicated to ____ that he believed that there was a
possibility that this entire matter might have been started by
subversive individuals for the purpose of creating a mass hysteria. He
suggested that the Bureau keep this in mind in any interviews conducted
regarding reported sightings. General Schulgen stated to ____ that he
would make available to the Bureau all information in the possession of
the Air Corps regarding the sightings which were first reported so that
the Bureau could conduct some investigation regarding these individuals
to ascertain their motives for reporting that they had observed flying
discs. When General Schulgen makes the information available regarding
these individuals, it will be promptly brought to your attention.
SWR:rnr
[Stamped: Copies Destroyed
270 nov 18 1964
50 SEP 30 1947
RECORDED
EX-43]
* * * * * * * *
MEMORANDUM FOR D. M. LADD 7/23/47
RECOMMENDATION
There is attached a Bureau Bulletin to the Field for their assistance
in handling this matter.
Attachment
* * * * * * * *
July 30, 1947
____
____
Brooklyn 27, New York
Dear ____:
I desire to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated July 14, 1947, and
to express my appreciation to you for bringing this matter to my
attention.
The information set forth in your letter has been carefully reviewed
and is being maintained in this Bureau as a matter of record.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
NOTE: ____ has been a previous correspondent with the Bu file ____. No
record could be located in the Crime Records Section indication that
the correspondent might be a mental case.
[Stamped: RECORDED
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
MAILED 10 P.M.
JUL 31 1947
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE]
* * * * * * * *
STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : D. M. LADD DATE: 7/10/47
FROM : E. G. Fitch
SUBJECT: FLYING DISKS
At request of Brigadier General George F. Schulgen, Chief of the
Requirements Intelligence Branch of Army Air Corps Intelligence,
Special Agent ____ discussed the above captioned matter with him on
July 9, 1947. General Schulgen indicated to ____ that the Air Corps has
taken the attitude that every effort must be undertaken in order to run
down and ascertain whether or not the flying disks are a fact and, if
so, to learn all about them. According to General Schulgen, the Air
Corps Intelligence are utilizing all of their scientists in order to
ascertain whether or not such a phenomenon could in fact occur. He
stated that this research is being conducted with the thought that the
flying objects might be a celestial phenomenon and with the view that
they might be a foreign body mechanically devised and controlled.
General Schulgen also indicated to ____ that all Air Corps
installations have been alerted to run out each reported sighting to
obtain all possible data to assist in this research project. In
passing, General Schulgen stated that an Air Corps pilot who believed
that he saw one of these objects was thoroughly interrogated by General
Schulgen and scientists, as well as a psychologist, and the pilot was
adamant in his claim that he saw a flying disk.
General Schulgen advised ____ that the possibility exists that the
first reported sightings of the so-called flying disks were fallacious
and prompted by individuals seeking personal publicity, or were
reported for political reasons. He stated that if this was so,
subsequent sightings might be the result of a mass hysteria. He pointed
out that the thought exists that the first reported sightings might
have been by individuals of Communist sympathies with the view to
causing hysteria and fear of a secret Russian weapon.
General Schulgen indicated to ____ that he is desirous of having all
the angles covered in this matter. He stated that reports of his
scientists and findings of the various Air Corps installations will be
available in his office. He advised that to complete the picture he
desired the assistance of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in
locating and questioning the individuals who first sighted the
so-called flying disks in order to ascertain whether or not they are
sincere in their statements that they saw these disks, or whether their
statements were prompted by personal desire for publicity or political
reasons. General Schulgen assured ____ that there are no War Department
or Navy Department research projects presently being conducted which
could in any way be tied up with the flying disks. General Schulgen
indicated to ____ that if the Bureau would cooperate with him in this
matter, he would offer all the facilities of his office as to results
obtained in the effort to identify and run down this matter.
____ advised General Schulgen that his request would be made known to
the Bureau and an answer made available to him as soon as possible.
____ also discussed this matter with ____ of ____ ____ indicated that
it was his attitude that inasmuch as it has been established that the
flying disks are not the result of any Army or Navy experiments, the
matter is of interest to the FBI. He stated that he was of the opinion
that the Bureau, if at all possible, should accede to General
Schulgen's request.
SWR:AJB
ADDENDUM
I would recommend that we advise the Army that the Bureau does not
believe it should go into these investigations, it being noted that a
great bulk of those alleged discs reported found have been pranks. It
is not believed that the Bureau would accomplish anything by going into
these investigations.
DML
[First Handwritten Note: I think we should do this.
7-15
Second Handwritten Note: I would do it but before agreeing to it we
must insist upon full access to discs
recovered. For instance in the La. case
the Army grabbed it & would not let us
have it for cursory examination.
H.]
[Stamped: RECORDED]
* * * * * * * *
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
AUG 14 1947
TELETYPE
FBI SEATTLE 8-14-47 5-15 PM FB
DIRECTOR ROUTINE
FLYING DISCS SIGHTED BY ____, TACOMA.
WASHINGTON, SM X. REURTEL INSTANT DATE. PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT ____ DID
NOT ADMIT TO ____ THAT HIS STORY WAS A HOAX BUT ONLY STATED THAT IF
QUESTIONED BY AUTHORITIES HE WAS GOING TO SAY IT WAS A HOAX BECAUSE HE
DID NOT WANT ANY FURTHER TROUBLE OVER THE MATTER. COMPLETE REPORT NOW
EN ROUTE TO BUREAU AMSD, WHICH INDICATES PROBABLY ____ MADE THE
ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL IN THE HOPE OF BUILDING UP THEIR STORY THROUGH
PUBLICITY TO A POINT WHERE THEY COULD MAKE A PROFITABLE DEAL WITH
FANTASY MAGAZINE, CHICAGO ILLINOIS. ____ WILL NOT BE REINTERVIEWED
UNLESS ADVISED TO THE CONTRARY BY THE BUREAU.
WILCOX
A AND HOLD PLS
9-16 PM OK FBI WASH DC GAR
[Stamped: 18 Aug 26 1947.
RECORDED & INDEXED
G.I.R.
EX-67]
* * * * * * * *
(B) FLYING DISCS--The Bureau, at the request of the Army Air Forces
Intelligence, has agreed to cooperate in the investigation of flying
discs. The Air Forces have confidentially advised that it is possible
to release three or more discs in odd numbers, attached together by a
wire, from an airplane in high altitudes and that these discs would
obtain tremendous speed in their descent and would descend to the earth
in an arc. The Army Air Forces Intelligence has also indicated some
concern that the reported sightings might have been made by subversive
individuals for the purpose of creating a mass hysteria.
_______________________________
7-30-47
BUREAU BULLETIN No. 42
Series 1947
You should investigate each instance which is brought to your attention
of a sighting of a flying disc in order to ascertain whether or not it
is a bona fide sighting, an imaginary one or a prank. You should also
bear in mind that individuals might report seeing flying discs for
various reasons. It is conceivable that an individual might be desirous
of seeking personal publicity, causing hysteria, or playing a prank.
The Bureau should be notified immediately by teletype of all reported
sightings and the results of your inquiries. In instances where the
report appears to have merit, the teletype should be followed by a
letter to the Bureau containing in detail the results of your
inquiries. The Army Air Forces have assured the Bureau complete
cooperating in these matters and in any instances where they fail to
make information available to you or make the recovered discs available
for your examination, it should promptly be brought to the attention of
the Bureau.
Any information you develop in connection with these discs should be
promptly brought to the attention of the Army through your usual
liaison channels.
[Stamped: RECORDED 78 AUG 4, 1947
252 AUG 18 1947]
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July 10, 1947
____
____
Darlington, South Carolina
Dear ____
I wish to acknowledge receipt of your Western Union telegram dated July
6, 1947. Your interest in bringing this information to my attention is
greatly appreciated.
Inasmuch as the contents of your telegram appear to be of interest to
the War Department only, I have taken the liberty of turning this
information over to that Department.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
cc--Savannah
NOTE: The telegram referred to "flying-discs."
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July 10, 1947
____
____
San Marcos, Texas
Dear ____
I wish to acknowledge receipt of your Western Union telegram dated July
7, 1947. Your interest in making this information available to me is
greatly appreciated.
Inasmuch as the contents of your telegram appear to be of interest to
the War Department only, I have taken the liberty of making the
information furnished by you available to that Department.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
cc--San Antonio
NOTE: The telegram referred to "flying discs."
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July 23, 1947
____
____
Westport, Connecticut
Dear ____
Your letter dated July 27, 1947, together with enclosures, has been
received and I want to thank you for submitting the letter you
mentioned to me.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
BHI:pib
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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
JUL 18 1947
TELETYPE
WASHINGTON FROM BOSTON 3 18
DIRECTOR
METAL FRAGMENTS OBSERVED AT WEST RINDGE, N.H., JULY SEVEN, FORTY SEVEN,
SECURITY MATTER-X. ____, SECURITY OFFICER, M.I.T., CAMBRIDGE, MASS.,
ADVISED THAT TODAY HE WAS IN CONTACT WITH ONE ____ ____ OF WEST RINDGE,
N.H., A RETIRED ____ OF THE NEW ENGLAND TEL. AND TEL. CO. ____ ADVISED
THAT AT APPROXIMATELY THREE PM ON JULY SEVEN LAST SEVERAL PEOPLE
SITTING ON A PORCH OBSERVED ON THE LAWN OF ____ ROUTE ____ WEST RINDGE,
N.H., LITTLE CUP OF SMOKE, WHICH ON INSPECTION DISCLOSED SMALL BURNED
____ SPOTS ABOUT ONE AND ONE HALF INCHES IN DIAMETER ON THE GREEN LAWN.
ALSO IN THE LONG DRY GRASS ON BOTH SIDES OF ROAD IN A CIRCLE
APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED FEET IN DIAMETER SEVERAL LITTLE BLAZES HAD
STARTED AND THE FIRE ____ DEPT. WAS CALLED. FIRES WERE APPARENTLY
CAUSED BY METALLIC FRAGMENTATION WHICH WERE TURNED OVER TO ____ OF MIT
BY A ____ ____ OF THE TELEPHONE COMPANY. ____ HAS ADVISED ____ THAT
THEIR GENERAL ____ APPEARANCE ARE SIMILAR TO THE LINING OF V DASH TWO
BOMBS, WHICH HE HAD OBSERVED AT NEW MEXICO. ____ PROFESSOR ____ AN
OUTSTANDING METALLURGIST AT MIT, STATED THAT THEY ARE POSSIBLY THE
LINING FROM A JET TURBO PLANE. AT PRESENT TIME HE IS IN PROCESS OF
ANALYZING TWO OF THESE PIECES. THESE SCIENTISTS IN ROUGHLY
RECONSTRUCTING THE METALLIC OBJECT STATE IT WAS APPROXIMATELY FOURTEEN
INCHES IN DIAMETER, THREE SIXTEENTH OF AN INCH THICK, AND MACHINE
TOOLED, AND SOME FRAGMENTS INDICATED THEY WERE BURNED AND ____ APPEARED
TO HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO TERRIFIC HEAT. THESE SCIENTISTS ARE TREATING
THIS MATTER AS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. MR. ____ ____ AT WEST RINDGE,
N.H. IS ALSO ENDEAVORING TO COLLECT ADDITIONAL FRAGMENTS AND HAS STATED
THAT THE FIRE CHIEF AT WEST RINDGE HAS ALSO SEVERAL FRAGMENTS IN HIS
POSSESSION. ____ INDICATED THAT THE ____ RESIDENCE IS SEVEN TO EIGHT
HUNDRED FEET EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. ____STATED HE WILL MAKE THE
RESULTS OF MIT RESEARCH AVAILABLE IF SIGNIFICANT. OPINIONS OF
SCIENTISTS AS SET FORTH ABOVE SUGGEST POSSIBLE MILITARY INTEREST.
MILITARY AUTHORITIES AT BOSTON HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED.
SOUCY
HOLD
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: July 18, 1947
FROM : SAC, NEW HAVEN
SUBJECT: "FLYING SAUCERS"
EDWIN M. BAILEY, JR.
STAMFORD, CONNECTICUT, INFORMANT
ATOMIC ENERGY ACT
For the information of the Bureau this is to advise that on July 7,
1947, ____ Stamford, Connecticut, appeared at the Stamford Resident
Agent's office and furnished the following information:--
____ prefaced his remarks by stating that he is a scientist by
occupation and is currently employed at the American Cyanamid Research
Laboratories on West Main Street in Stamford, Connecticut, in the
Physics Division. ____ further indicated that during the war he was
employed at MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, in the Radiation Laboratory
which Laboratory is connected with the Manhattan Project. ____ advised
that he is thirty years of age and is a graduate of the University of
Arizona.
____ stated that the topic of "flying saucers" had caused considerable
comment and concern to the present day scientists and indicated that he
himself had a personal theory concerning the "flying saucers". Prior to
advancing his own theory, ____remarked that immediately after the
conclusion of World War II, a friend of his, ____ allegedly observed
the "flying saucers" from an observatory in Milan and Bologna, Italy.
He stated that apparently at that time the "flying saucers" had caused
a little comment in Italy but that after some little publicity they
immediately died out as public interest. ____ stated that it is quite
possible that actually the "flying saucers" could be radio controlled
germ bombs or atom bombs which are circling the orbit of the earth and
which could be controlled by radio and directed to land on any
designated target at the specific desire of the agency or country
operating the bombs. He stated that one of the items of interest which
he personally has observed is the fact that the saucers have been
observed in Mexico City, New Orleans, Philadelphia, New York, Boston,
Halifax, Newfoundland, Paris, Milan, Bologna and Yugoslavia as well as
Albania. By placing a string around the globe of the earth it would be
noticed that all of the above-mentioned cities form a direct orbit or
circle around the earth and would be more or less in line of any path
in which the saucers could be circling.
____ further stated that he had recently talked with ____ ____, one of
the owners of ____ in Glenbrook, Connecticut, and had been informed by
____ that his company is making a large powerful telescope to be used
in searching the stratosphere for atom bombs.
FXM/clb
117-0
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : Director, FBI DATE: July 3, 1947
FROM : SAC, Butte
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Mr. ____ of the Idaho Daily Statesman, Boise, Idaho, telephonically
contacted the Butte Office and asked if the FBI was checking on the
flying discs reported to have been seen by many citizens. He advised
that so many had reported having seen them that it undoubtedly was not
a figment of the imagination. He said that these discs had been seen on
July 1, 1947, in the vicinity of Trail Creek near Sun Valley, Idaho, by
reputable citizens.
The writer informed ____ that this office was not making an
investigation and inquired as to whether he had contacted Army and Navy
officials. He said that he was inquiring of these agencies.
WGB:LB
AIR MAIL
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : Director, FBI DATE: July 17, 1947
FROM : SAC, Los Angeles
SUBJECT: RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC"
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA,
JULY 9, 1947
On the evening of July 9, 1947, a report was received at the Los
Angeles Office that a so-called "flying disc" had landed in the
vicinity of Radford and Magnolia Streets in North Hollywood,
California, the contraption being briefly described as approximately 30
inches in diameter, all metal, disc shaped, and having a radio antenna.
It was reported to have burst into flames upon landing. At the time of
the report the disc was being held at the Valley Fire Department in Van
Nuys, California.
SA ____ went to the fire department immediately at which time it was
found that a number of people had gathered including newspaper
reporters and photographers who were taking pictures of the disc.
Battalion Fire Chief ____ advised Agent that at approximately 10:30
P.M. an unknown woman called on the telephone and excitedly reported
that the disc had dropped into her garden where it began to flame, her
residence being located at 11858 Magnolia Boulevard, North Hollywood. A
fire department truck was sent there and put out the flaming object
with the fire hose, after which the object was taken to the fire
station. SA ____ thereafter arranged to transport the disc to the
office.
The device is briefly described as consisting of two convex steel discs
approximately 2 feet in diameter, fused together at the outer edge and
fastened together in the center by a hollow cylindrical connection. A
vertical galvanized iron fin was screwed to the top of the disc, and a
short length of pipe closed at one and ran from the outer circumference
into the interior of the contraption. What appeared to be a radio tube
was installed in the center of the top side. The contraption had a
total weight of approximately 20 pounds.
At the Bureau Office a series of photographs were taken of the device
from various positions, and a set of these photographs are being
forwarded herewith for the Bureau's inspection and information.
The "flying disc" was thereafter turned over to Major ____ ____ A.C.,
G-2, Fort MacArthur, San Pedro, California, who subsequently reported
that the object was definitely a hoax and under no circumstances could
have flown under its own power.
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Director, FBI July 17, 1947
Re: RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC",
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA,
JULY 9. 1947
On the following day, July 10, 1947, one ____ ____ North Hollywood,
reported that on this morning he was at the North Hollywood Service
Station eating at which time there was considerable talk about the
flying disc having been found in the vicinity. A number of what
appeared to be young high school students were present and were having
quite a laugh about the excitement caused by the finding of the disc.
____ stated that he received a definite impression that these young
students either had themselves or knew of someone who had been working
for the past two weeks making this "flying disc". ____ was unable to
furnish the names of any of these young men but identified one of them
who was making the statements as being employed in a Chevron Service
Station at the corner of Victory Boulevard and Whitsett Street. He
described the youngster as about sixteen years of age.
The above information was also furnished to the G-2 Office at San
Pedro, California.
MMB:MGM
100-9099
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
_Office Memorandum_ · UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : MR. LADD DATE: July 10, 1947
FROM : ____
SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS (DISCS)
INFORMATION CONCERNING
At 6.45 AM this date, SAC Hood telephonically contacted the Bureau and
advised at approximately 11:30 PM, July 9, 1947, the office in Los
Angeles had received information from the Resident Agent at Burbank,
California, that a "flying disc" had landed in or near Burbank and had
been seen to burst into flame when it landed. Further, that it had been
the cause of a fire in some woods, this fire either in Burbank or
possibly in the city limits of Los Angeles, which Mr. Hood could not be
certain. The fire chief at Burbank had called the resident agent at
Burbank and told him he would hold the disc for him.
Coincident with the information received from Burbank, the Los Angeles
Office received calls from the newspapers requesting information. The
newspapers stating they had called the Army Air Force Intelligence who
had stated "we are not interested". According to Mr. Hood, this comment
had aroused the newspapers and they stated they intended to publish
this quotation and belabor same in their first issues, Mr. Hood stated
that he had refrained from making any statement to the press other than
to admit possession of an object and that it was being turned over to
military authorities in the morning (this AM), it being Mr. Hood's
opinion that he did not want any quotes in the press and certainly not
one to the effect that we were not interested.
As described to him, Mr. Hood stated that the object was an aluminum
disc about 2' in diameter weighing about ten pounds, painted with
aluminum paint and having some sort of a radio tube in the center of
the disc. This object was in possession of the resident agent at
Burbank and would be turned over to military authorities (G-2) in Los
Angeles this morning.
Mr. Hood's purpose in calling was to place the Bureau on notice
regarding the above described object and any further information would
be transmitted to the Bureau at once.
Action: None indicated.
PEW:da
[Stamped: RECORDED]
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July 18, 1947
____
____
Chicago, Illinois
Dear ____
I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter postmarked July 7, 1947.
The information contained therein has been carefully reviewed and is
being made a matter of permanent record in the files of this Bureau.
Your interest in writing as you did is indeed appreciated.
In the future should you have information which you feel might be of
interest to this Bureau you might find it convenient to contact the
Special Agent in Charge of our Chicago Office, which is located at 1900
Bankers' Building, Chicago 3, Illinois.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
cc--Chicago (With incoming. There is no identifiable information in
the Bureau's files concerning the writer of this letter.
Despite the fact that this letter refers to "flying
discs", it is not believed that the information furnished
is sufficiently important to refer to Army authorities.)
WVC:WMJ
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